hans
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Oct 1, 2008 14:27:08 GMT 10
Post by hans on Oct 1, 2008 14:27:08 GMT 10
I have always wanted to know how the FANCY rats 'popped' up, like the DU and blazed, REW, BEW, blue, Rex and so one. were they freaks of nature breed together or what. did all the blazed come from one area or can they just pop up anywhere??
sorry but this question has been bugging me so much?
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Fancy
Oct 1, 2008 14:58:58 GMT 10
Post by sharz.ram on Oct 1, 2008 14:58:58 GMT 10
Noone really knows where they came from, but its assumed feeder breeders who mass breed sell them to petshops, where they are found by fanciers, then selective breeding has kept them around.
If youre interested these are the people who were the first to find these types, well as far as Im aware anyway; BEW= Alpay/alkaline-he found one in a petshop, and they have been popping up ever since. Just recently The Mad Ratter, has breed her own which are totally seperate from the ones in and around Sydney. DU=First one was a hairless rat, which was breed at The Rodent Ranch. Blazed=Apparently started by someone called Barry, from Brisbane who breeds for snake food. I have actually talked to this guy, he was interested in my litter. Rex=Brats Tails was the first one to find one in a petshop in Melbourne.
Have no idea about the REW, but its probably linked to the BEW some how.
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hans
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Fancy
Oct 1, 2008 15:40:56 GMT 10
Post by hans on Oct 1, 2008 15:40:56 GMT 10
intresting
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hans
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Oct 1, 2008 21:01:49 GMT 10
Post by hans on Oct 1, 2008 21:01:49 GMT 10
does anyone know how the feeder breeders breed the new ones or just luck?
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Fancy
Oct 1, 2008 21:34:11 GMT 10
Post by coastalrodents on Oct 1, 2008 21:34:11 GMT 10
Isn't it because feeder breeders are white with an underlying marking? So you don't really know what to expect when you breed two together?
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hans
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Oct 2, 2008 7:51:42 GMT 10
Post by hans on Oct 2, 2008 7:51:42 GMT 10
OK, and ow about new colours
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Oct 2, 2008 13:35:40 GMT 10
Post by rockette on Oct 2, 2008 13:35:40 GMT 10
does anyone know how the feeder breeders breed the new ones or just luck? Inbreeding. A snake doesn't care if the rat it eats is inbred, therefore feeder breeders aren't concerned about inbreeding for generations. Therefore genes that otherwise would have remained hidden appear. I believe we have every gene that overseas has, and it's only a matter of time they all appear.
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hans
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Oct 2, 2008 13:48:48 GMT 10
Post by hans on Oct 2, 2008 13:48:48 GMT 10
ok, is that why there lots of problems with 'new' ones when they are first discovered? like the blue's bleeding problems
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Fancy
Oct 2, 2008 14:30:58 GMT 10
Post by sharz.ram on Oct 2, 2008 14:30:58 GMT 10
Yes.
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hans
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Oct 2, 2008 19:27:53 GMT 10
Post by hans on Oct 2, 2008 19:27:53 GMT 10
so inbreeding brings out the genes that otherwise would of stayed hidden?
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Oct 2, 2008 20:32:31 GMT 10
Post by rockette on Oct 2, 2008 20:32:31 GMT 10
There is a good chance it will. Sometimes you will get undesired traits though, like tumours and other illnesses, so it isn't wise to do it if you aren't prepared to monitor the line.
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Oct 2, 2008 20:46:51 GMT 10
Post by hans on Oct 2, 2008 20:46:51 GMT 10
why is it a lot of feeder lines are really healthy if they are so inbreed, I got my rat willow from a feeder breeder and she and her line are the healthest rats i have ever had, i mean I have never heard her sneeze in her life.
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Fancy
Oct 2, 2008 21:06:47 GMT 10
Post by sharz.ram on Oct 2, 2008 21:06:47 GMT 10
Because only the toughest will survive in the conditions they are kept in.
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Oct 2, 2008 21:48:07 GMT 10
Post by hans on Oct 2, 2008 21:48:07 GMT 10
they were in great condidtion air-con room all year round BUT they were always breeding so thats bad
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Oct 10, 2008 9:42:42 GMT 10
Post by alice on Oct 10, 2008 9:42:42 GMT 10
does anyone know how the feeder breeders breed the new ones or just luck? Inbreeding. A snake doesn't care if the rat it eats is inbred, therefore feeder breeders aren't concerned about inbreeding for generations. Therefore genes that otherwise would have remained hidden appear. I believe we have every gene that overseas has, and it's only a matter of time they all appear. So...you mean we could have dumbos someday?
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